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Tyla · Jun 28, 2008, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Just wondering -- What is "Starcraft"? I've heard of it plenty of times on these forums and decided to check some videos on Youtube, and it looks like some RTS game.

FlamingMetroid · Jun 28, 2008, 04:11 PM // 16:11

ZOMG its t3h BEST RTS game evar!!1!one!!!1!

that'll be the average response

Dallcingi · Jun 28, 2008, 04:15 PM // 16:15

its a really old game (what 10-15 years ago?) that is still popular in korea.
SC2 coming out soon maybe around the time GW2 will be out.

Abedeus · Jun 28, 2008, 04:15 PM // 16:15

Lol. You don't know what's Starcraft? It's like not knowing Diablo, Might and Magic or Half Life. It was like the best (and some of it's aspects are still) RTS game in the history of video games.

And I was ashamed that I didn't play it...

moriz · Jun 28, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

starcraft is more balanced the GW.

nuff said.

DokkyDok · Jun 28, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

One of the greatest games you will ever play...

Bryant Again · Jun 28, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Just wondering -- What is "Starcraft"? I've heard of it plenty of times on these forums and decided to check some videos on Youtube, and it looks like some RTS game.

At least you didn't ask "What is Doom?", because then my head really would have exploded.

Targuil · Jun 28, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

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Originally Posted by moriz

starcraft is more balanced the GW.

nuff said.

QFT. There isn't any ursans at least.

zelgadissan · Jun 28, 2008, 11:22 PM // 23:22

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Originally Posted by moriz

starcraft is more balanced the GW.

nuff said.

Consider the thread won.

Anyway, just in case you hadn't checked, a Wikipedia article. It's the RTS game that defined RTS. Three races that fight with their own unique abilities and units, and to this day is essentially more important in Korea than football. Easily the most balanced game of all time, except for maybe Pong.

Oh yeah, and "ZOMG its t3h BEST RTS game evar!!1!one!!!1!"

arcanemacabre · Jun 29, 2008, 06:41 AM // 06:41

There's this thing called "Google"

Anarkii · Jun 29, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22

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Originally Posted by zelgadissan

and to this day is essentially more important in Korea than football.

That is true and one of the main reasons is that Koreans are very efficient and particular about competitions involving pure skill. That is why GW had a very high Korean base when it started.

They even 'measure' starcraft skills in APM(actions per minute) and win % . Some koreans have pretty absurd APM numbers in starcraft.

It's A Me · Jun 29, 2008, 07:41 AM // 07:41

it looks crap imo. ive never enjoyed thsoe types of games though.

Tosha · Jun 29, 2008, 11:04 AM // 11:04

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Originally Posted by It's A Me

it looks crap imo. ive never enjoyed thsoe types of games though.

Some games dont rely on their graphics to be good

Besides, you have to keep in mind that it is a game from 1998 , and people still play it

I dont play it either, but at least I got respect for it

AidinSwiftarrow · Jun 29, 2008, 07:15 PM // 19:15

It's a popular RTS game made by Blizzard Entertainment.

May I also suggest an RTS game? The Battle For Middle Earth 2 and it's expansion are based on Lord of the Rings and are EXCELLENT RTS games.

Abedeus · Jun 29, 2008, 07:45 PM // 19:45

Yeah, but Starcraft is 5th best selling computer game ever, behind Sims, Lineage, Sims 2 and WoW.

And, of course, the best selling RTS of all time.

some guy · Jun 30, 2008, 12:41 AM // 00:41

company of heroes is the best RTS made up to date

but without SC, there would be no modern RTS. Tribute to SC!!!!!!

Abedeus · Jun 30, 2008, 07:20 AM // 07:20

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Originally Posted by some guy

company of heroes is the best RTS made up to date

Not much of a selling success, though. Not even 1 million was sold.

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but without SC, there would be no modern RTS. Tribute to SC!!!!!!

Well, there would be RTS'. But Starcraft has set the expectations a lot higher.

Kattar · Jun 30, 2008, 01:00 PM // 13:00

I should punch you, Tyla, but you're younger than me, so I'll let it slide this time. You should pick it up though. It's fun, with a good story. And you can get it pretty cheaply, about 20 USD.

Starcraft is still considered to be the RTS by many people (like all of Korea). As was stated, it set the bar for most RTSs that came after 1998.

And come on, the graphics weren't that bad. Better that Diablo.

Avarre · Jun 30, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by Anarkii

They even 'measure' starcraft skills in APM(actions per minute) and win % . Some koreans have pretty absurd APM numbers in starcraft.

Most foreign competitive players do this as well, using various programs to track it. It's not necessary and quite a few don't, since it really shouldn't be too much of a focus. Non-Korean APM is usually lower by comparison, simply because not even the top players are training at the same intensity.

APM among pro's varies immensely and isn't linked to success. Kang Min and Ma Jae Yoon had APM near or below 200, while Lee Jae Dong and Lee Yun Yeol often average above 400. It's not an effective measurement as some players spam more than others, inflating APM. There's another tally known as EAPM (effective APM) that tries to take spam into account, but that's not a purely objective scale.

Then again, when it's your full-time job and you train over twelve hours a day, you're going to get results. That's why Korea wins WCG (which isn't very competitive compared to StarLeagues anyway). Obviously you're going to keep track of your win % (KeSPA tracks the wins of televised games) in that position, because it helps determine your position on the team (and salary), among other things.

None of this is too relevant anyways but I'm bored and follow the scene a bit so why not.

Murmel · Jun 30, 2008, 02:03 PM // 14:03

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Just wondering -- What is "Starcraft"?

Almost fell off the chair hehe.
It's an old RTS game made by Blizzard. Became very popular, and is still.